Why JS-Kit and Echo is doomed
Yet another service in the overcrowded blog comment field is JS-Kit who already have a conventional outsourced blog comment capability (similar to IntenseDebate and Disqus).
JS-Kit recently announced an extension to the service called 'Echo' which also includes any fleeting reference to your blog post, refreshed in real-time from other services like Twitter, FriendFeed, Google Reader and Facebook.
Echo isn't generally available to mere mortals yet. Yes, you guessed it - it's limited beta, invitation only and curiously, you need a Twitter account to even request an invitation.
However, if your name is Michael Arrington, Guy Kawasaki, Robert Scoble or Duncan Riley, you are entitled to use the service which is fair enough as it works best for high volume sites with lots of comments
However, look at this example on The Inquistr of Echo in action on a live site.
Wow - just look at all those 'comments'. Look again closely. Most entries are not comments at all. They are merely links or retweets to the article from Twitter or FriendFeed. The vast majority merely echo the main headline with no additional comment or insight.
Look again and try to find any meaningful comments where people are actually commenting on the post and expressing their opinion. Guess what. The vast majority are mostly classified as 'via Comments'.
So, that's three reasons, I won't be installing 'Echo' on this blog.
- I don't use Twitter.
- It adds no value.
- No-one ever comments anyway.
consolidation of commenting services
Since I started this blog, I have maintained an interest in various blog commenting services. Back in November 2007, I experimented with SezWho and also reviewed three more similar comment tracking services before finally settling on Disqus.
Competition is obviously a good thing but this is proving a tough climate for small, Web 2.0 companies competing in a small, overcrowded marketplace and we have recently seen some consolidation in this area.
- SezWho - Unfortunately, SezWho ceased trading yesterday with a recommended upgrade path to JS-Kit.
- Disqus - still going strong with recent announcement of improvements to performance and UI.
- coComment - still going albeit with a horrendous interface.
- co.mments - consigned to the dead pool.
- commentful - still alive. For now.
The two main commenting services that appear to represent serious competition for Disqus are IntenseDebate and JS-Kit although I have no personal experience of either product. Anyone out there used them ?
has your company got a Community Manager ?
My support for the Disqus commenting system used on this blog is well documented. I have also had great support whenever I have had minor issues with a service I paid precisely nothing for.
Disqus are a small company with less than 10 employees. However, Disqus are not a cottage industry operating out of Daniel Ha's garage. Disqus are funded by venture capital (Union Square and angel investors) and raised $500,000 in the last round of funding (March 2008).
So it's not surprising that Disqus are growing and hiring people. However, what fascinates me is that in addition to hiring talented developers to develop, improve, enhance and fix the product, Disqus have recently appointed Giannii as a 'Community Manager'.
Ignoring the lack of a surname and some of the Web 2.0 terms sprinkled in this introductory post; for example, 'Chief Happiness Engineer' is frankly cringe worthy, it is worth noting that Disqus have many channels available for people to contact them:
- Disqus forums
- GetSatisfaction
More importantly, Disqus don't just sit by the computer waiting for people to call in - they proactively monitor all these channels and participate. Moan about a Disqus problem on Twitter and count the seconds until you get a response.
What is interesting about Disqus hiring a 'Community Manager' is not necessarily that a small startup can afford one but Disqus (and presumably the people controlling the purse strings) actually view this role as one of the first ten, and most important, positions to be filled in the company.
So what ? Every company has a 'Community Manager' - they are just called different things 'Sales', 'Marketing', 'Partners', 'Customer Care', 'Public Relations' - every company does this stuff but they don't a) shout about it and b) dress it up in Web 2.0 tinsel.
To pick just one example, Apple are a big, successful company who make clever videos and sell expensive, stylish computers, iPods and iPhones to this type of demographic so surely they must have a 'Community Manager' ?
Surprisingly, they don't. In September, Apple released the 2.1 firmware for the iTouch and this update broke WPA2 wireless connectivity. Having recently acquired an iTouch and been hugely impressed with the device, I was surprised Apple could have introduced such a fundamental bug but I ignored it and waited patiently for a patch.
Unsurprisingly, lots of Apple customers experienced the same issue and multiple threads arose to discuss the issue on Apple's official support forums. The most popular thread now has 36,208 views and 436 replies.
- How many of the 436 replies came from Apple ? None.
- Did Apple respond to any of these threads ? No.
- Did Apple even acknowledge the problem ? No.
- Do Apple care about their customers ? Not sure.
- Am I encouraged to give more money to Apple by spending in the iTunes Store ? No.
- What impression does this give to a recent Apple convert ? Arrogant.
- When is 2.2 scheduled for release ? Not known.
- Will 2.2 include a fix for this issue ? Not known.
- Is a fix even on the horizon ? Originally, I would have bet money on it but, given Apple's lack of response to date, I am now starting to have doubts.
It's obvious that Apple don't have a 'Community Manager'. Does your company ?
in praise of Disqus
Disqus recently released a update which includes the ability to export comments on a WordPress blog so I have just exported all historic comments left on this blog (when it was running WordPress) into Disqus.
This operation was slightly complicated because this blog now uses Habari but the necessary steps were:
- Download and install the new Disqus 2.0 plugin for Wordpress.
- Delete all obvious spam so the export only processes genuine comments and runs faster.
- Switch the archived WordPress copy of the blog back to the original location.
- Export all comments from WordPress into Disqus.
- Claim comments left by myself using an alternative email address before I had even heard about Disqus.
- Wrap the WordPress blog in cling-film, label and place back into cryogenic storage.
- Reinstate the Habari blog.
However, because I am pretty stupid and overly hasty, inevitably I omitted step 3. This meant that while all comments appeared on the Disqus site, the permalinks to the individual blog articles were incorrect and referenced '/wordpress/' instead of '/blog/'.
As it wasn't obvious how to rectify this issue or perform a selective bulk delete so I could repeat the process, I sent an email to Disqus support explaining the problem and asking for help.
24 minutes later, Jason from Disqus emailed me saying he'd fixed all the URL's.
What a fantastic service. What a fantastic product. What fanastic people.
So now I can put the kettle on and reaquaint myself with 886 comments (including some old friends) that have now been restored to their rightful place.
The only gap that remains is that a relatively small number of comments left on my blog after the Habari migration and prior to the adoption of Disqus are not currently visible. Hopefully, when the Disqus API is fully released, even this may be possible.